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PTIJ: What dummy is the Gemara referring to?



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We find in many places throughout shas we find the words of




היכי דמי




I was always confused by this statement. Who is this dummy, and why is the Gemara mentioning him?



Thanks.




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    I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

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  • Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

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    There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

    – Nic
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9















We find in many places throughout shas we find the words of




היכי דמי




I was always confused by this statement. Who is this dummy, and why is the Gemara mentioning him?



Thanks.




This question is Purim Torah and is not intended to be taken completely seriously. See the Purim Torah policy.










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  • 3





    I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

    – Menachem
    Mar 7 at 2:15











  • Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

    – Dr. Shmuel
    Mar 7 at 2:44











  • JSYK the policy is not to include tags besides PTIJ.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:56






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    There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

    – Nic
    Mar 7 at 16:35














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We find in many places throughout shas we find the words of




היכי דמי




I was always confused by this statement. Who is this dummy, and why is the Gemara mentioning him?



Thanks.




This question is Purim Torah and is not intended to be taken completely seriously. See the Purim Torah policy.










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We find in many places throughout shas we find the words of




היכי דמי




I was always confused by this statement. Who is this dummy, and why is the Gemara mentioning him?



Thanks.




This question is Purim Torah and is not intended to be taken completely seriously. See the Purim Torah policy.







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  • 3





    I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

    – Menachem
    Mar 7 at 2:15











  • Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

    – Dr. Shmuel
    Mar 7 at 2:44











  • JSYK the policy is not to include tags besides PTIJ.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:56






  • 3





    There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

    – Nic
    Mar 7 at 16:35













  • 3





    I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

    – Menachem
    Mar 7 at 2:15











  • Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

    – Dr. Shmuel
    Mar 7 at 2:44











  • JSYK the policy is not to include tags besides PTIJ.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:56






  • 3





    There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

    – Nic
    Mar 7 at 16:35








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3





I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

– Menachem
Mar 7 at 2:15





I don't suppose Dummy Ben Nesina would be an appropriate answer.

– Menachem
Mar 7 at 2:15













Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

– Dr. Shmuel
Mar 7 at 2:44





Not only דמי, but also cousins דמיא and דמיין

– Dr. Shmuel
Mar 7 at 2:44













JSYK the policy is not to include tags besides PTIJ.

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 3:56





JSYK the policy is not to include tags besides PTIJ.

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 3:56




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3





There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

– Nic
Mar 7 at 16:35






There was this one Amora who didn't understand לבוד, they kept yelling at him "it's לבוד, dummy" (כלבוד דמי). The name eventually stuck.

– Nic
Mar 7 at 16:35











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In Genesis 4:10 we have the following verse:




ויאמר מה עשית קול דמי אחיך צעקים אלי מן האדמה



And he said: "What have you done? The voice of Dummy your brother is crying out to me from the ground."




From this verse we can derive two things about Dummy:



  1. He is your brother.

  2. He is trapped in the ground.

Who do we know that was trapped in the ground?



Korach!



But if Dummy is Korach, we must ask in what sense is he "your brother"?



Well what else do we know about "your brother"?



In Genesis 37:13 we find out that "your brother" is a shepherd:




הלא אחיך רעים בשכם



Is not your brother shepherding in Shechem?




And what do we know about a shepherd? Well the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 6:1 says:




נכנס הרואה תחתיו



The shepherd replaces him.




What was Korach's agenda? To replace Moshe.



Thus, Dummy = your brother = shepherd = Korach.



Now you might ask why some of these verses appear to use the plural form (e.g. צעקים, רעים) if they are talking about one person, namely Dummy. The answer to that lies in a Talmudic statement in Zevachim 43b:




ונאמרו קדשים בלשון רבים



And the holy ones are said in plural form.




And what was Korach's mantra? We find it in Numbers 16:3:




כל העדה כלם קדשים



The entire congregation is all holy ones.




So of course Korach (Dummy) would be referred to in the plural form!






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    slow clap Well done.

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  • @DonielF Thanks.

    – Alex
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  • @Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

    – Rafael
    Mar 8 at 1:50


















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Baruch Shekivanta! That is indeed the question of the Gemara:




היכי דמי

Who is the dummy?







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  • Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 16:40


















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A dummy in English is what is known as a pacifier in American. In Hebrew it is called a מוצץ.



So it is obvious that the dummy/pacifier/motzetz mentioned everywhere by the gemara is none other than the Aharon.



After all, Rambam in Ma'amar Kiddush Hashem quotes the following midrash:




ואהרן מוצץ



And Aharon is a motzetz.




This fits with what we know of Aharon's character from Avot deRabbi Natan 12:3, namely that he would pacify the parties to an argument until they made peace.






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In Genesis 4:10 we have the following verse:




ויאמר מה עשית קול דמי אחיך צעקים אלי מן האדמה



And he said: "What have you done? The voice of Dummy your brother is crying out to me from the ground."




From this verse we can derive two things about Dummy:



  1. He is your brother.

  2. He is trapped in the ground.

Who do we know that was trapped in the ground?



Korach!



But if Dummy is Korach, we must ask in what sense is he "your brother"?



Well what else do we know about "your brother"?



In Genesis 37:13 we find out that "your brother" is a shepherd:




הלא אחיך רעים בשכם



Is not your brother shepherding in Shechem?




And what do we know about a shepherd? Well the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 6:1 says:




נכנס הרואה תחתיו



The shepherd replaces him.




What was Korach's agenda? To replace Moshe.



Thus, Dummy = your brother = shepherd = Korach.



Now you might ask why some of these verses appear to use the plural form (e.g. צעקים, רעים) if they are talking about one person, namely Dummy. The answer to that lies in a Talmudic statement in Zevachim 43b:




ונאמרו קדשים בלשון רבים



And the holy ones are said in plural form.




And what was Korach's mantra? We find it in Numbers 16:3:




כל העדה כלם קדשים



The entire congregation is all holy ones.




So of course Korach (Dummy) would be referred to in the plural form!






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    slow clap Well done.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:09











  • @DonielF Thanks.

    – Alex
    Mar 7 at 3:10











  • @Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

    – Rafael
    Mar 8 at 1:50















16














In Genesis 4:10 we have the following verse:




ויאמר מה עשית קול דמי אחיך צעקים אלי מן האדמה



And he said: "What have you done? The voice of Dummy your brother is crying out to me from the ground."




From this verse we can derive two things about Dummy:



  1. He is your brother.

  2. He is trapped in the ground.

Who do we know that was trapped in the ground?



Korach!



But if Dummy is Korach, we must ask in what sense is he "your brother"?



Well what else do we know about "your brother"?



In Genesis 37:13 we find out that "your brother" is a shepherd:




הלא אחיך רעים בשכם



Is not your brother shepherding in Shechem?




And what do we know about a shepherd? Well the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 6:1 says:




נכנס הרואה תחתיו



The shepherd replaces him.




What was Korach's agenda? To replace Moshe.



Thus, Dummy = your brother = shepherd = Korach.



Now you might ask why some of these verses appear to use the plural form (e.g. צעקים, רעים) if they are talking about one person, namely Dummy. The answer to that lies in a Talmudic statement in Zevachim 43b:




ונאמרו קדשים בלשון רבים



And the holy ones are said in plural form.




And what was Korach's mantra? We find it in Numbers 16:3:




כל העדה כלם קדשים



The entire congregation is all holy ones.




So of course Korach (Dummy) would be referred to in the plural form!






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  • 2





    slow clap Well done.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:09











  • @DonielF Thanks.

    – Alex
    Mar 7 at 3:10











  • @Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

    – Rafael
    Mar 8 at 1:50













16












16








16







In Genesis 4:10 we have the following verse:




ויאמר מה עשית קול דמי אחיך צעקים אלי מן האדמה



And he said: "What have you done? The voice of Dummy your brother is crying out to me from the ground."




From this verse we can derive two things about Dummy:



  1. He is your brother.

  2. He is trapped in the ground.

Who do we know that was trapped in the ground?



Korach!



But if Dummy is Korach, we must ask in what sense is he "your brother"?



Well what else do we know about "your brother"?



In Genesis 37:13 we find out that "your brother" is a shepherd:




הלא אחיך רעים בשכם



Is not your brother shepherding in Shechem?




And what do we know about a shepherd? Well the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 6:1 says:




נכנס הרואה תחתיו



The shepherd replaces him.




What was Korach's agenda? To replace Moshe.



Thus, Dummy = your brother = shepherd = Korach.



Now you might ask why some of these verses appear to use the plural form (e.g. צעקים, רעים) if they are talking about one person, namely Dummy. The answer to that lies in a Talmudic statement in Zevachim 43b:




ונאמרו קדשים בלשון רבים



And the holy ones are said in plural form.




And what was Korach's mantra? We find it in Numbers 16:3:




כל העדה כלם קדשים



The entire congregation is all holy ones.




So of course Korach (Dummy) would be referred to in the plural form!






share|improve this answer













In Genesis 4:10 we have the following verse:




ויאמר מה עשית קול דמי אחיך צעקים אלי מן האדמה



And he said: "What have you done? The voice of Dummy your brother is crying out to me from the ground."




From this verse we can derive two things about Dummy:



  1. He is your brother.

  2. He is trapped in the ground.

Who do we know that was trapped in the ground?



Korach!



But if Dummy is Korach, we must ask in what sense is he "your brother"?



Well what else do we know about "your brother"?



In Genesis 37:13 we find out that "your brother" is a shepherd:




הלא אחיך רעים בשכם



Is not your brother shepherding in Shechem?




And what do we know about a shepherd? Well the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 6:1 says:




נכנס הרואה תחתיו



The shepherd replaces him.




What was Korach's agenda? To replace Moshe.



Thus, Dummy = your brother = shepherd = Korach.



Now you might ask why some of these verses appear to use the plural form (e.g. צעקים, רעים) if they are talking about one person, namely Dummy. The answer to that lies in a Talmudic statement in Zevachim 43b:




ונאמרו קדשים בלשון רבים



And the holy ones are said in plural form.




And what was Korach's mantra? We find it in Numbers 16:3:




כל העדה כלם קדשים



The entire congregation is all holy ones.




So of course Korach (Dummy) would be referred to in the plural form!







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    slow clap Well done.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:09











  • @DonielF Thanks.

    – Alex
    Mar 7 at 3:10











  • @Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

    – Rafael
    Mar 8 at 1:50












  • 2





    slow clap Well done.

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 3:09











  • @DonielF Thanks.

    – Alex
    Mar 7 at 3:10











  • @Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

    – Rafael
    Mar 8 at 1:50







2




2





slow clap Well done.

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 3:09





slow clap Well done.

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 3:09













@DonielF Thanks.

– Alex
Mar 7 at 3:10





@DonielF Thanks.

– Alex
Mar 7 at 3:10













@Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

– Rafael
Mar 8 at 1:50





@Alex, great answer. However, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question, why is the Gemara talking about this dummy?

– Rafael
Mar 8 at 1:50











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Baruch Shekivanta! That is indeed the question of the Gemara:




היכי דמי

Who is the dummy?







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  • Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 16:40















2














Baruch Shekivanta! That is indeed the question of the Gemara:




היכי דמי

Who is the dummy?







share|improve this answer























  • Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 16:40













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Baruch Shekivanta! That is indeed the question of the Gemara:




היכי דמי

Who is the dummy?







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Baruch Shekivanta! That is indeed the question of the Gemara:




היכי דמי

Who is the dummy?








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  • Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

    – DonielF
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  • Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

    – DonielF
    Mar 7 at 16:40
















Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 16:40





Isn’t that the point of the OP’s question? What’s the answer to the Gemara’s question?

– DonielF
Mar 7 at 16:40











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A dummy in English is what is known as a pacifier in American. In Hebrew it is called a מוצץ.



So it is obvious that the dummy/pacifier/motzetz mentioned everywhere by the gemara is none other than the Aharon.



After all, Rambam in Ma'amar Kiddush Hashem quotes the following midrash:




ואהרן מוצץ



And Aharon is a motzetz.




This fits with what we know of Aharon's character from Avot deRabbi Natan 12:3, namely that he would pacify the parties to an argument until they made peace.






share|improve this answer























  • I'm sure this is מציצה בפה

    – רבות מחשבות
    Mar 10 at 13:05















1














A dummy in English is what is known as a pacifier in American. In Hebrew it is called a מוצץ.



So it is obvious that the dummy/pacifier/motzetz mentioned everywhere by the gemara is none other than the Aharon.



After all, Rambam in Ma'amar Kiddush Hashem quotes the following midrash:




ואהרן מוצץ



And Aharon is a motzetz.




This fits with what we know of Aharon's character from Avot deRabbi Natan 12:3, namely that he would pacify the parties to an argument until they made peace.






share|improve this answer























  • I'm sure this is מציצה בפה

    – רבות מחשבות
    Mar 10 at 13:05













1












1








1







A dummy in English is what is known as a pacifier in American. In Hebrew it is called a מוצץ.



So it is obvious that the dummy/pacifier/motzetz mentioned everywhere by the gemara is none other than the Aharon.



After all, Rambam in Ma'amar Kiddush Hashem quotes the following midrash:




ואהרן מוצץ



And Aharon is a motzetz.




This fits with what we know of Aharon's character from Avot deRabbi Natan 12:3, namely that he would pacify the parties to an argument until they made peace.






share|improve this answer













A dummy in English is what is known as a pacifier in American. In Hebrew it is called a מוצץ.



So it is obvious that the dummy/pacifier/motzetz mentioned everywhere by the gemara is none other than the Aharon.



After all, Rambam in Ma'amar Kiddush Hashem quotes the following midrash:




ואהרן מוצץ



And Aharon is a motzetz.




This fits with what we know of Aharon's character from Avot deRabbi Natan 12:3, namely that he would pacify the parties to an argument until they made peace.







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  • I'm sure this is מציצה בפה

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I'm sure this is מציצה בפה

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I'm sure this is מציצה בפה

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