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Does the US political system, in principle, allow for a no-party system?



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowDoes the two-party system influence engagement?What are the main differences between US First Party System and Second/Third Party Systems?What are the advantages of a two party system vs multiple party system?Do any studies reflect a correlation between Republicans political positions and racial attitudes?What causes the 2 Party System (Australia)Does association of age to political party imply changing of political affiliation as one ages?Does the two-party system create a political advantage for the rich?What role did Comey and the Podesta email leaks play in Clinton's loss?Is the US democracy a multi-party system or a dual-party system?Is there any specific governing body responsible for altering the stated platform for a political party in the United States?










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And is the two-party system currently in place simply an emergent consequence of human nature?



We often find that there exist sets of politically controversial claims that are strongly correlated, even though the validity of each claim is entirely orthogonal. For example, the normative claim that abortion is morally acceptable, and the descriptive claim that humans are responsible for climate change, are entirely independent of one another, yet we find that almost everybody is either a proponent of, or a detractor of both claims. Certainly more than we should expect if acceptance of either claim is a statistically independent process.



Is it possible for there to be a government, whose laws and constitution are identical to that of the US, in which each senator and member of congress is essentially their own "party" with their own unique set of positions on issues, and where the correlation between different members' position on issues only reflects the actual correlation between the validity claims of the issues themselves, and not, say, some other latent construct like a "party"? And that the president was just some other candidate that had no common affiliation with any senator or member of congress? Is the current partisan system purely a consequence of human nature? Or is partisanship hard-wired in US law?










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    It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

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    A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

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    Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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    @Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

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    @MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

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And is the two-party system currently in place simply an emergent consequence of human nature?



We often find that there exist sets of politically controversial claims that are strongly correlated, even though the validity of each claim is entirely orthogonal. For example, the normative claim that abortion is morally acceptable, and the descriptive claim that humans are responsible for climate change, are entirely independent of one another, yet we find that almost everybody is either a proponent of, or a detractor of both claims. Certainly more than we should expect if acceptance of either claim is a statistically independent process.



Is it possible for there to be a government, whose laws and constitution are identical to that of the US, in which each senator and member of congress is essentially their own "party" with their own unique set of positions on issues, and where the correlation between different members' position on issues only reflects the actual correlation between the validity claims of the issues themselves, and not, say, some other latent construct like a "party"? And that the president was just some other candidate that had no common affiliation with any senator or member of congress? Is the current partisan system purely a consequence of human nature? Or is partisanship hard-wired in US law?










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    It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

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    A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

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    Mar 7 at 18:34






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    Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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    Mar 7 at 20:47






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    @Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

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    Mar 8 at 15:03







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    @MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

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And is the two-party system currently in place simply an emergent consequence of human nature?



We often find that there exist sets of politically controversial claims that are strongly correlated, even though the validity of each claim is entirely orthogonal. For example, the normative claim that abortion is morally acceptable, and the descriptive claim that humans are responsible for climate change, are entirely independent of one another, yet we find that almost everybody is either a proponent of, or a detractor of both claims. Certainly more than we should expect if acceptance of either claim is a statistically independent process.



Is it possible for there to be a government, whose laws and constitution are identical to that of the US, in which each senator and member of congress is essentially their own "party" with their own unique set of positions on issues, and where the correlation between different members' position on issues only reflects the actual correlation between the validity claims of the issues themselves, and not, say, some other latent construct like a "party"? And that the president was just some other candidate that had no common affiliation with any senator or member of congress? Is the current partisan system purely a consequence of human nature? Or is partisanship hard-wired in US law?










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And is the two-party system currently in place simply an emergent consequence of human nature?



We often find that there exist sets of politically controversial claims that are strongly correlated, even though the validity of each claim is entirely orthogonal. For example, the normative claim that abortion is morally acceptable, and the descriptive claim that humans are responsible for climate change, are entirely independent of one another, yet we find that almost everybody is either a proponent of, or a detractor of both claims. Certainly more than we should expect if acceptance of either claim is a statistically independent process.



Is it possible for there to be a government, whose laws and constitution are identical to that of the US, in which each senator and member of congress is essentially their own "party" with their own unique set of positions on issues, and where the correlation between different members' position on issues only reflects the actual correlation between the validity claims of the issues themselves, and not, say, some other latent construct like a "party"? And that the president was just some other candidate that had no common affiliation with any senator or member of congress? Is the current partisan system purely a consequence of human nature? Or is partisanship hard-wired in US law?







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    It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

    – Geobits
    Mar 7 at 17:44






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    A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

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    Mar 7 at 18:34






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    Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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    Mar 7 at 20:47






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    @Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

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    Mar 8 at 15:03







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    @MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

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    It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

    – Geobits
    Mar 7 at 17:44






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    A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

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    Mar 7 at 18:34






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    Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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    Mar 7 at 20:47






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    @Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

    – Bridgeburners
    Mar 8 at 15:03







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    @MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

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It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

– Geobits
Mar 7 at 17:44





It's definitely human nature to have fewer parties, rather than each person on their own. Ballots are long and people are lazy. Even for those who dig in deeper about candidates, the party gives a starting point to find out more. If all you have is a list of 15 names for each position (more likely without parties), and 15 positions, you need to do some in-depth work just to figure out which candidates you can immediately cross off, much less which are the best of the rest.

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A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

– Matthew Liu
Mar 7 at 18:34





A 2 or 1 party system can be expected in a majority rules system. No individual can be elected to a position of power elected democratically without being in a political party of some sort. Due to the winner take all sort of nature of voting, candidates will find others with similar interests with them and consolidate their votes/power. It will naturally gravitate towards either 2 party division or a single party rule.

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Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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Are you looking for an answer from a legal perspective, or from a political-theory perspective?

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@Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

– Bridgeburners
Mar 8 at 15:03






@Mark I'm not sure what the latter would entail, I'm not very familiar with political theory. I suppose, ideally, I would want something like an economics explanation. Is the two party system just one of many Nash equilibria? What other kind of Nash equilibria could arise in the US political system, and with what sort of actors would this result emerge? But I am open to different sorts of answers.

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@MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

– reirab
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@MatthewLiu It's entirely possible to have multiple parties in a majority-rules system... it's first-past-the-post (i.e. plurality wins) that (highly) favors 2-party systems. Also, the first President of the United States was indeed elected without being in a political party. And he advised everyone else to avoid them, too. Unfortunately, though, he helped design a system that highly favors them.

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George Washington said:




However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.




Washington opposed the development of political parties. The design was that the country would not have parties. But people banded together and made parties, thwarting his design.



There is nothing in the United States constitution requiring parties. There is quite a bit of law promoting them though. For example, it is much easier to get on the fifty-one ballots (fifty states plus Washington, DC) for people who win the Democratic or Republican primaries.



The one constitutional encouragement for the two party system is the national nature of the presidential election. In a parliamentary system, it is easier to have multiple parties. The first-past-the-post system also pushes towards two parties per district but is not constitutionally required. It could be changed legally. Duverger's law.



A different system could be implemented, but it is unlikely that the existing parties will do so unless they determine that the system itself is making it hard for them. For example, moderate Democrats and Republicans might band together to make a system that allowed moderates to compete better. In many states, primaries are limited to just members of the party. So moderates like Joe Manchin and John Kasich are limited to just the moderates in their own party, while many of their natural supporters are of the other party or are independents.



The current partisan system is not constitutionally mandated, but it is legally self-perpetuating. The parties resist reforms, like non-geographic districts, that would produce better representation but reduce their own power.






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    "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

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    It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

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    @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

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    @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

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U.S. Political Parties are not hard wired into U.S. Law. In fact, Nebraska explicitly has a non-partisan rule in its legislature (This is actually unique. Nebraska is also the only state with a unicameral legislature). United States Constitutional Law requires all States to be "Republic in Nature" so presumably a representative democracy with no monarchy will suffice that demand. All 50 states qualify as semi-direct democracies to one degree or another.



Nebraska primaries are different in this nature. Since there are no parties given, primaries are open to all citizens in the district who vote for the general candidates from a list. The top two best performing candidates are pitted against each other in their district's general election. Since the U.S. protects the right to free association, Nebraska cannot stop candidates from joining political parties, so most Senators are actually in a party dynamic... however, generals could result in Democrat vs. Democrat or Republican vs. Republican or Republican vs. Democrat, depending on the party affiliation of the top two primary candidates.



It also needs to be pointed out that in the United States, the political party system is a weak party system. This means that while Republicans or Democrats in party leadership may want their party members to vote a certain way, they can't force them to. During the most recent shut down, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez famously broke ranks with the Democrats and voted against the spending bill with Republicans (though not for the same reasons as the Republicans. AOC refused to vote for the bill because she was opposed to Funding ICE. The Republicans voted against it because it didn't fund the border wall).



Another recent famous aisle crossing was Senator John McCain's voting against a Republican bill that would have made sweeping changes, defeating it by a single vote.



One of the deepest darkest secrets of the U.S. Legislature is that... individual Democrats and Republicans are actually on very friendly terms with each other. Most do have friends that are in the opposite party... in fact, committee chairs are usually get along with their counter part Ranking Members as most committee leaders are long serving members... they do a lot of behind the scenes work with each other. And some congress men and women do have an unspoken dislike of other members of their own party (Nancy Pelosi won Speaker on very narrow margins... and she was unopposed). In fact, the most important room for making deals with the other side isn't the floor or the office of a party leadership... but the congressional gym. It's one of the few areas of the congressional offices where only congress members (and staff who keep up the facilities) are allowed to enter (so the staffers in their offices and the news cameras can't report on the details). A crafty Democrat can negotiate with a Republican while he spots the Republican's bench press.






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    The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

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    I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

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  • @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

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    Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

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    Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

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I think a look at global trends shows that more than two parties are an emergent property of human nature, as long as the political system lets them get away with forming wings within parties and splinter groups within factions. The answer by Brythan quotes Duverger's Law, which shows that a two-party system emerges under special conditions.



Having a formal political party merely gives legal structure to the human tendency to form groups. Government without parties may be possible at a small town level, where everybody knows everybody and the issues are local, but imagine the mess if every budget proposal had to be negotiated by 435 people around a big table, each with an equal voice in the outcome.



The concept of committees also relies on party affilation, or everyone would want to be on Appropriations and few would take Indian Affairs ...






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    A lot of people are commenting about human nature and its role in partisan systems forming. As a matter of interest, I think we can expand on this by comparing the Westminster system used in the UK and several Commonwealth countries.



    For specific examples, I'll be using Australia to illustrate, as (a) it has a single written Constitution, unlike the UK, and (b) as an Aussie it's the one I know best. But I think that what I've said below is also true of the UK, and probably mostly true of other Westminster democracies.



    In summary, political parties are mostly absent1 from the written law, but are a key element of convention. And convention is perhaps equally important as written law in how a Westminster government works.




    The Executive and Legislature



    Notionally, the executive and the legislature are separate bodies, although by law and/or convention2, all members of the executive (aside from the head of state) are also members of the legislature. And notionally, it's the head of state who appoints the other members of the executive (the ministers).



    In practice, the head of state first picks the head of government (the Prime Minister), and always chooses the leader of the party that has a majority in the legislature's lower house. The other members of the executive are whoever the Prime Minister tells the head of state to appoint3.



    Consider what happens when no party has a majority in the lower house. The head of state decides which party is more likely to consistently get its votes passed by cobbling together enough support from outside the party. That party's leader becomes PM. If that shaky ability to win votes doesn't last, the legislature gets dissolved and an election is held.



    So to run the government, you have to have the reliable support of a majority of legislators. That practically requires that parties exist, and that party members consistently vote the same way.



    Election Systems



    Election systems that favour major parties result in more stable government, and so are more common, even if they're arguably less democratic. More specifically, since it's a majority in the lower house that you need, the lower house's election system is almost always one that favours major parties. (In the UK, it's first-past-the-post; in Australia, it's single-candidate preferential.)



    The upper house (where it hasn't been done away with) is expected to be more diverse and can have completely different election system. (The UK's House of Lords is unelected, while Australia's Senate is elected on proportional representation.)



    "The Government"



    The notion of power being tied to a party is so ingrained that the currently-dominant party is called "the Government" for short. Technically you could say that this refers to the executive, but in practice it also includes non-minister members of the legislature.



    Further reinforcing not just a party system, but a two-party system, is the role of the Opposition (entirely a matter of convention). While the dominant party is the Government, the runner-up is the Opposition. Their job is to scrutinise the Government's actions, and present an alternative set of policies for the voters come the next election, because they (unlike minor parties) have a realistic chance of being the next Government.



    Even the very layout of the legislative chambers is based on a two-party system. The Government sits on one side, the Opposition on the other, and minor parties sit on the "cross-benches".



    Public Perception



    The voting public knows and accepts the conventions, probably better than the written law. They almost universally choose a party to vote for (or against), not a candidate.



    An interesting situation (and very topical in Australia) is a change in party leadership. When the reigning party's leader loses that leadership due to internal issues, that naturally results in them also being removed as Prime Minister. This tends to annoy the voters, who see themselves as "voting for a Prime Minister" at election time5, even though technically only one electorate directly voted for the PM (who is also their local member).



    What If...?



    You could imagine a non-partisan government, where the head of state actually uses the power that the written law gives them (but which convention says they should never use) and picks whoever they damn well please to be in the executive, regardless of party. But it just doesn't happen4; it'd be seen as a flagrant breach of convention and a slide towards dictatorship.




    1 Originally, the Australian Constitution didn't mention parties at all. A later amendment added a requirement that, when a senator gets replaced, their replacement has to be from the same party.



    2 The Australian Constitution allows non-members of Parliament to become ministers only for a limited time. In practice, it just doesn't happen.



    3 This decision may be made at the Prime Minister's own discretion or by the party caucus.



    4 A unity government is kind of close, but not really.



    5 Or at least, the media can always sell the story that the people's chosen PM was kicked out by undemocratic intra-party squabbling, not an election.






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    • I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

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    • @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

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    George Washington said:




    However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.




    Washington opposed the development of political parties. The design was that the country would not have parties. But people banded together and made parties, thwarting his design.



    There is nothing in the United States constitution requiring parties. There is quite a bit of law promoting them though. For example, it is much easier to get on the fifty-one ballots (fifty states plus Washington, DC) for people who win the Democratic or Republican primaries.



    The one constitutional encouragement for the two party system is the national nature of the presidential election. In a parliamentary system, it is easier to have multiple parties. The first-past-the-post system also pushes towards two parties per district but is not constitutionally required. It could be changed legally. Duverger's law.



    A different system could be implemented, but it is unlikely that the existing parties will do so unless they determine that the system itself is making it hard for them. For example, moderate Democrats and Republicans might band together to make a system that allowed moderates to compete better. In many states, primaries are limited to just members of the party. So moderates like Joe Manchin and John Kasich are limited to just the moderates in their own party, while many of their natural supporters are of the other party or are independents.



    The current partisan system is not constitutionally mandated, but it is legally self-perpetuating. The parties resist reforms, like non-geographic districts, that would produce better representation but reduce their own power.






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    • 29





      "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

      – corsiKa
      Mar 8 at 2:58






    • 3





      It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:19











    • @TKK Also freedom of association.

      – jpmc26
      Mar 8 at 19:29






    • 1





      @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:38







    • 3





      @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:12
















    65














    George Washington said:




    However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.




    Washington opposed the development of political parties. The design was that the country would not have parties. But people banded together and made parties, thwarting his design.



    There is nothing in the United States constitution requiring parties. There is quite a bit of law promoting them though. For example, it is much easier to get on the fifty-one ballots (fifty states plus Washington, DC) for people who win the Democratic or Republican primaries.



    The one constitutional encouragement for the two party system is the national nature of the presidential election. In a parliamentary system, it is easier to have multiple parties. The first-past-the-post system also pushes towards two parties per district but is not constitutionally required. It could be changed legally. Duverger's law.



    A different system could be implemented, but it is unlikely that the existing parties will do so unless they determine that the system itself is making it hard for them. For example, moderate Democrats and Republicans might band together to make a system that allowed moderates to compete better. In many states, primaries are limited to just members of the party. So moderates like Joe Manchin and John Kasich are limited to just the moderates in their own party, while many of their natural supporters are of the other party or are independents.



    The current partisan system is not constitutionally mandated, but it is legally self-perpetuating. The parties resist reforms, like non-geographic districts, that would produce better representation but reduce their own power.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 29





      "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

      – corsiKa
      Mar 8 at 2:58






    • 3





      It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:19











    • @TKK Also freedom of association.

      – jpmc26
      Mar 8 at 19:29






    • 1





      @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:38







    • 3





      @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:12














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    65







    George Washington said:




    However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.




    Washington opposed the development of political parties. The design was that the country would not have parties. But people banded together and made parties, thwarting his design.



    There is nothing in the United States constitution requiring parties. There is quite a bit of law promoting them though. For example, it is much easier to get on the fifty-one ballots (fifty states plus Washington, DC) for people who win the Democratic or Republican primaries.



    The one constitutional encouragement for the two party system is the national nature of the presidential election. In a parliamentary system, it is easier to have multiple parties. The first-past-the-post system also pushes towards two parties per district but is not constitutionally required. It could be changed legally. Duverger's law.



    A different system could be implemented, but it is unlikely that the existing parties will do so unless they determine that the system itself is making it hard for them. For example, moderate Democrats and Republicans might band together to make a system that allowed moderates to compete better. In many states, primaries are limited to just members of the party. So moderates like Joe Manchin and John Kasich are limited to just the moderates in their own party, while many of their natural supporters are of the other party or are independents.



    The current partisan system is not constitutionally mandated, but it is legally self-perpetuating. The parties resist reforms, like non-geographic districts, that would produce better representation but reduce their own power.






    share|improve this answer













    George Washington said:




    However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.




    Washington opposed the development of political parties. The design was that the country would not have parties. But people banded together and made parties, thwarting his design.



    There is nothing in the United States constitution requiring parties. There is quite a bit of law promoting them though. For example, it is much easier to get on the fifty-one ballots (fifty states plus Washington, DC) for people who win the Democratic or Republican primaries.



    The one constitutional encouragement for the two party system is the national nature of the presidential election. In a parliamentary system, it is easier to have multiple parties. The first-past-the-post system also pushes towards two parties per district but is not constitutionally required. It could be changed legally. Duverger's law.



    A different system could be implemented, but it is unlikely that the existing parties will do so unless they determine that the system itself is making it hard for them. For example, moderate Democrats and Republicans might band together to make a system that allowed moderates to compete better. In many states, primaries are limited to just members of the party. So moderates like Joe Manchin and John Kasich are limited to just the moderates in their own party, while many of their natural supporters are of the other party or are independents.



    The current partisan system is not constitutionally mandated, but it is legally self-perpetuating. The parties resist reforms, like non-geographic districts, that would produce better representation but reduce their own power.







    share|improve this answer












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    answered Mar 7 at 18:14









    BrythanBrythan

    70k8146237




    70k8146237







    • 29





      "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

      – corsiKa
      Mar 8 at 2:58






    • 3





      It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:19











    • @TKK Also freedom of association.

      – jpmc26
      Mar 8 at 19:29






    • 1





      @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:38







    • 3





      @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:12













    • 29





      "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

      – corsiKa
      Mar 8 at 2:58






    • 3





      It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:19











    • @TKK Also freedom of association.

      – jpmc26
      Mar 8 at 19:29






    • 1





      @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

      – TKK
      Mar 8 at 19:38







    • 3





      @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:12








    29




    29





    "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

    – corsiKa
    Mar 8 at 2:58





    "I told you so." - George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

    – corsiKa
    Mar 8 at 2:58




    3




    3





    It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

    – TKK
    Mar 8 at 19:19





    It's worth noting that any well-intentioned law meant to outlaw parties or inhibit the tendency toward having two major parties could easily run afoul of the First Amendment right to peaceable assembly.

    – TKK
    Mar 8 at 19:19













    @TKK Also freedom of association.

    – jpmc26
    Mar 8 at 19:29





    @TKK Also freedom of association.

    – jpmc26
    Mar 8 at 19:29




    1




    1





    @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

    – TKK
    Mar 8 at 19:38






    @jpmc26 That's what I'm talking about. There is no explicit right of "freedom of assocation"; the courts have inferred that concept from the right of "peaceable assembly."

    – TKK
    Mar 8 at 19:38





    3




    3





    @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

    – reirab
    Mar 8 at 21:12






    @TKK A law to ban parties would be unconstitutional. Changing the law to not unfairly favor them, however, would not inherently be unconstitutional (though some of those changes would likely need to be constitutional amendments in order to actually fix the problems.)

    – reirab
    Mar 8 at 21:12












    11














    U.S. Political Parties are not hard wired into U.S. Law. In fact, Nebraska explicitly has a non-partisan rule in its legislature (This is actually unique. Nebraska is also the only state with a unicameral legislature). United States Constitutional Law requires all States to be "Republic in Nature" so presumably a representative democracy with no monarchy will suffice that demand. All 50 states qualify as semi-direct democracies to one degree or another.



    Nebraska primaries are different in this nature. Since there are no parties given, primaries are open to all citizens in the district who vote for the general candidates from a list. The top two best performing candidates are pitted against each other in their district's general election. Since the U.S. protects the right to free association, Nebraska cannot stop candidates from joining political parties, so most Senators are actually in a party dynamic... however, generals could result in Democrat vs. Democrat or Republican vs. Republican or Republican vs. Democrat, depending on the party affiliation of the top two primary candidates.



    It also needs to be pointed out that in the United States, the political party system is a weak party system. This means that while Republicans or Democrats in party leadership may want their party members to vote a certain way, they can't force them to. During the most recent shut down, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez famously broke ranks with the Democrats and voted against the spending bill with Republicans (though not for the same reasons as the Republicans. AOC refused to vote for the bill because she was opposed to Funding ICE. The Republicans voted against it because it didn't fund the border wall).



    Another recent famous aisle crossing was Senator John McCain's voting against a Republican bill that would have made sweeping changes, defeating it by a single vote.



    One of the deepest darkest secrets of the U.S. Legislature is that... individual Democrats and Republicans are actually on very friendly terms with each other. Most do have friends that are in the opposite party... in fact, committee chairs are usually get along with their counter part Ranking Members as most committee leaders are long serving members... they do a lot of behind the scenes work with each other. And some congress men and women do have an unspoken dislike of other members of their own party (Nancy Pelosi won Speaker on very narrow margins... and she was unopposed). In fact, the most important room for making deals with the other side isn't the floor or the office of a party leadership... but the congressional gym. It's one of the few areas of the congressional offices where only congress members (and staff who keep up the facilities) are allowed to enter (so the staffers in their offices and the news cameras can't report on the details). A crafty Democrat can negotiate with a Republican while he spots the Republican's bench press.






    share|improve this answer




















    • 2





      The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

      – Jasper
      Mar 8 at 1:45






    • 1





      I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

      – Eric Nolan
      Mar 8 at 10:36











    • @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

      – David Rice
      Mar 8 at 14:42






    • 1





      Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

      – hszmv
      Mar 8 at 18:39






    • 1





      Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:18
















    11














    U.S. Political Parties are not hard wired into U.S. Law. In fact, Nebraska explicitly has a non-partisan rule in its legislature (This is actually unique. Nebraska is also the only state with a unicameral legislature). United States Constitutional Law requires all States to be "Republic in Nature" so presumably a representative democracy with no monarchy will suffice that demand. All 50 states qualify as semi-direct democracies to one degree or another.



    Nebraska primaries are different in this nature. Since there are no parties given, primaries are open to all citizens in the district who vote for the general candidates from a list. The top two best performing candidates are pitted against each other in their district's general election. Since the U.S. protects the right to free association, Nebraska cannot stop candidates from joining political parties, so most Senators are actually in a party dynamic... however, generals could result in Democrat vs. Democrat or Republican vs. Republican or Republican vs. Democrat, depending on the party affiliation of the top two primary candidates.



    It also needs to be pointed out that in the United States, the political party system is a weak party system. This means that while Republicans or Democrats in party leadership may want their party members to vote a certain way, they can't force them to. During the most recent shut down, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez famously broke ranks with the Democrats and voted against the spending bill with Republicans (though not for the same reasons as the Republicans. AOC refused to vote for the bill because she was opposed to Funding ICE. The Republicans voted against it because it didn't fund the border wall).



    Another recent famous aisle crossing was Senator John McCain's voting against a Republican bill that would have made sweeping changes, defeating it by a single vote.



    One of the deepest darkest secrets of the U.S. Legislature is that... individual Democrats and Republicans are actually on very friendly terms with each other. Most do have friends that are in the opposite party... in fact, committee chairs are usually get along with their counter part Ranking Members as most committee leaders are long serving members... they do a lot of behind the scenes work with each other. And some congress men and women do have an unspoken dislike of other members of their own party (Nancy Pelosi won Speaker on very narrow margins... and she was unopposed). In fact, the most important room for making deals with the other side isn't the floor or the office of a party leadership... but the congressional gym. It's one of the few areas of the congressional offices where only congress members (and staff who keep up the facilities) are allowed to enter (so the staffers in their offices and the news cameras can't report on the details). A crafty Democrat can negotiate with a Republican while he spots the Republican's bench press.






    share|improve this answer




















    • 2





      The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

      – Jasper
      Mar 8 at 1:45






    • 1





      I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

      – Eric Nolan
      Mar 8 at 10:36











    • @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

      – David Rice
      Mar 8 at 14:42






    • 1





      Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

      – hszmv
      Mar 8 at 18:39






    • 1





      Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:18














    11












    11








    11







    U.S. Political Parties are not hard wired into U.S. Law. In fact, Nebraska explicitly has a non-partisan rule in its legislature (This is actually unique. Nebraska is also the only state with a unicameral legislature). United States Constitutional Law requires all States to be "Republic in Nature" so presumably a representative democracy with no monarchy will suffice that demand. All 50 states qualify as semi-direct democracies to one degree or another.



    Nebraska primaries are different in this nature. Since there are no parties given, primaries are open to all citizens in the district who vote for the general candidates from a list. The top two best performing candidates are pitted against each other in their district's general election. Since the U.S. protects the right to free association, Nebraska cannot stop candidates from joining political parties, so most Senators are actually in a party dynamic... however, generals could result in Democrat vs. Democrat or Republican vs. Republican or Republican vs. Democrat, depending on the party affiliation of the top two primary candidates.



    It also needs to be pointed out that in the United States, the political party system is a weak party system. This means that while Republicans or Democrats in party leadership may want their party members to vote a certain way, they can't force them to. During the most recent shut down, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez famously broke ranks with the Democrats and voted against the spending bill with Republicans (though not for the same reasons as the Republicans. AOC refused to vote for the bill because she was opposed to Funding ICE. The Republicans voted against it because it didn't fund the border wall).



    Another recent famous aisle crossing was Senator John McCain's voting against a Republican bill that would have made sweeping changes, defeating it by a single vote.



    One of the deepest darkest secrets of the U.S. Legislature is that... individual Democrats and Republicans are actually on very friendly terms with each other. Most do have friends that are in the opposite party... in fact, committee chairs are usually get along with their counter part Ranking Members as most committee leaders are long serving members... they do a lot of behind the scenes work with each other. And some congress men and women do have an unspoken dislike of other members of their own party (Nancy Pelosi won Speaker on very narrow margins... and she was unopposed). In fact, the most important room for making deals with the other side isn't the floor or the office of a party leadership... but the congressional gym. It's one of the few areas of the congressional offices where only congress members (and staff who keep up the facilities) are allowed to enter (so the staffers in their offices and the news cameras can't report on the details). A crafty Democrat can negotiate with a Republican while he spots the Republican's bench press.






    share|improve this answer















    U.S. Political Parties are not hard wired into U.S. Law. In fact, Nebraska explicitly has a non-partisan rule in its legislature (This is actually unique. Nebraska is also the only state with a unicameral legislature). United States Constitutional Law requires all States to be "Republic in Nature" so presumably a representative democracy with no monarchy will suffice that demand. All 50 states qualify as semi-direct democracies to one degree or another.



    Nebraska primaries are different in this nature. Since there are no parties given, primaries are open to all citizens in the district who vote for the general candidates from a list. The top two best performing candidates are pitted against each other in their district's general election. Since the U.S. protects the right to free association, Nebraska cannot stop candidates from joining political parties, so most Senators are actually in a party dynamic... however, generals could result in Democrat vs. Democrat or Republican vs. Republican or Republican vs. Democrat, depending on the party affiliation of the top two primary candidates.



    It also needs to be pointed out that in the United States, the political party system is a weak party system. This means that while Republicans or Democrats in party leadership may want their party members to vote a certain way, they can't force them to. During the most recent shut down, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez famously broke ranks with the Democrats and voted against the spending bill with Republicans (though not for the same reasons as the Republicans. AOC refused to vote for the bill because she was opposed to Funding ICE. The Republicans voted against it because it didn't fund the border wall).



    Another recent famous aisle crossing was Senator John McCain's voting against a Republican bill that would have made sweeping changes, defeating it by a single vote.



    One of the deepest darkest secrets of the U.S. Legislature is that... individual Democrats and Republicans are actually on very friendly terms with each other. Most do have friends that are in the opposite party... in fact, committee chairs are usually get along with their counter part Ranking Members as most committee leaders are long serving members... they do a lot of behind the scenes work with each other. And some congress men and women do have an unspoken dislike of other members of their own party (Nancy Pelosi won Speaker on very narrow margins... and she was unopposed). In fact, the most important room for making deals with the other side isn't the floor or the office of a party leadership... but the congressional gym. It's one of the few areas of the congressional offices where only congress members (and staff who keep up the facilities) are allowed to enter (so the staffers in their offices and the news cameras can't report on the details). A crafty Democrat can negotiate with a Republican while he spots the Republican's bench press.







    share|improve this answer














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    answered Mar 7 at 21:04









    hszmvhszmv

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    • 2





      The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

      – Jasper
      Mar 8 at 1:45






    • 1





      I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

      – Eric Nolan
      Mar 8 at 10:36











    • @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

      – David Rice
      Mar 8 at 14:42






    • 1





      Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

      – hszmv
      Mar 8 at 18:39






    • 1





      Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:18













    • 2





      The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

      – Jasper
      Mar 8 at 1:45






    • 1





      I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

      – Eric Nolan
      Mar 8 at 10:36











    • @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

      – David Rice
      Mar 8 at 14:42






    • 1





      Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

      – hszmv
      Mar 8 at 18:39






    • 1





      Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

      – reirab
      Mar 8 at 21:18








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    The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

    – Jasper
    Mar 8 at 1:45





    The states of Washington and California have similar "jungle primary" systems. In Washington, each candidate writes in the name of his or her preferred party. They list a wide range of party names. For example, quite a few candidates prefer the "Grand Old Party", not the "Republican" party.

    – Jasper
    Mar 8 at 1:45




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    I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

    – Eric Nolan
    Mar 8 at 10:36





    I'm not sure I would categorise it as a weak party system. The cross party votes are relatively rare. While it is true that you can't be forced to vote the way your party wants (although you can be pressured) most vote along party lines most of the time.

    – Eric Nolan
    Mar 8 at 10:36













    @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

    – David Rice
    Mar 8 at 14:42





    @EricNolan but people aren't voting with the party because of the power of the party. They're joining the party that already represents their political view (which has not historically been how parties worked - the parties' political machines are much weaker now than in the past)

    – David Rice
    Mar 8 at 14:42




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    Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

    – hszmv
    Mar 8 at 18:39





    Show me an American who can say something nice about Congress, and I'll show you a Congress Member.

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    Mar 8 at 18:39




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    Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

    – reirab
    Mar 8 at 21:18






    Regarding the last paragraph... I think the opening sentence has been much more true in the (even relatively recent) past than it is now. Bipartisanship and even general respect and decorum in Congress has declined dramatically in the last 10-15 years. The ability to work across the aisle isn't completely gone yet, but it is dramatically diminished. Even as a millennial, I've seen a dramatic shift to the extremes among both major political parties over the years that I've been voting.

    – reirab
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    I think a look at global trends shows that more than two parties are an emergent property of human nature, as long as the political system lets them get away with forming wings within parties and splinter groups within factions. The answer by Brythan quotes Duverger's Law, which shows that a two-party system emerges under special conditions.



    Having a formal political party merely gives legal structure to the human tendency to form groups. Government without parties may be possible at a small town level, where everybody knows everybody and the issues are local, but imagine the mess if every budget proposal had to be negotiated by 435 people around a big table, each with an equal voice in the outcome.



    The concept of committees also relies on party affilation, or everyone would want to be on Appropriations and few would take Indian Affairs ...






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      I think a look at global trends shows that more than two parties are an emergent property of human nature, as long as the political system lets them get away with forming wings within parties and splinter groups within factions. The answer by Brythan quotes Duverger's Law, which shows that a two-party system emerges under special conditions.



      Having a formal political party merely gives legal structure to the human tendency to form groups. Government without parties may be possible at a small town level, where everybody knows everybody and the issues are local, but imagine the mess if every budget proposal had to be negotiated by 435 people around a big table, each with an equal voice in the outcome.



      The concept of committees also relies on party affilation, or everyone would want to be on Appropriations and few would take Indian Affairs ...






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        I think a look at global trends shows that more than two parties are an emergent property of human nature, as long as the political system lets them get away with forming wings within parties and splinter groups within factions. The answer by Brythan quotes Duverger's Law, which shows that a two-party system emerges under special conditions.



        Having a formal political party merely gives legal structure to the human tendency to form groups. Government without parties may be possible at a small town level, where everybody knows everybody and the issues are local, but imagine the mess if every budget proposal had to be negotiated by 435 people around a big table, each with an equal voice in the outcome.



        The concept of committees also relies on party affilation, or everyone would want to be on Appropriations and few would take Indian Affairs ...






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        I think a look at global trends shows that more than two parties are an emergent property of human nature, as long as the political system lets them get away with forming wings within parties and splinter groups within factions. The answer by Brythan quotes Duverger's Law, which shows that a two-party system emerges under special conditions.



        Having a formal political party merely gives legal structure to the human tendency to form groups. Government without parties may be possible at a small town level, where everybody knows everybody and the issues are local, but imagine the mess if every budget proposal had to be negotiated by 435 people around a big table, each with an equal voice in the outcome.



        The concept of committees also relies on party affilation, or everyone would want to be on Appropriations and few would take Indian Affairs ...







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            A lot of people are commenting about human nature and its role in partisan systems forming. As a matter of interest, I think we can expand on this by comparing the Westminster system used in the UK and several Commonwealth countries.



            For specific examples, I'll be using Australia to illustrate, as (a) it has a single written Constitution, unlike the UK, and (b) as an Aussie it's the one I know best. But I think that what I've said below is also true of the UK, and probably mostly true of other Westminster democracies.



            In summary, political parties are mostly absent1 from the written law, but are a key element of convention. And convention is perhaps equally important as written law in how a Westminster government works.




            The Executive and Legislature



            Notionally, the executive and the legislature are separate bodies, although by law and/or convention2, all members of the executive (aside from the head of state) are also members of the legislature. And notionally, it's the head of state who appoints the other members of the executive (the ministers).



            In practice, the head of state first picks the head of government (the Prime Minister), and always chooses the leader of the party that has a majority in the legislature's lower house. The other members of the executive are whoever the Prime Minister tells the head of state to appoint3.



            Consider what happens when no party has a majority in the lower house. The head of state decides which party is more likely to consistently get its votes passed by cobbling together enough support from outside the party. That party's leader becomes PM. If that shaky ability to win votes doesn't last, the legislature gets dissolved and an election is held.



            So to run the government, you have to have the reliable support of a majority of legislators. That practically requires that parties exist, and that party members consistently vote the same way.



            Election Systems



            Election systems that favour major parties result in more stable government, and so are more common, even if they're arguably less democratic. More specifically, since it's a majority in the lower house that you need, the lower house's election system is almost always one that favours major parties. (In the UK, it's first-past-the-post; in Australia, it's single-candidate preferential.)



            The upper house (where it hasn't been done away with) is expected to be more diverse and can have completely different election system. (The UK's House of Lords is unelected, while Australia's Senate is elected on proportional representation.)



            "The Government"



            The notion of power being tied to a party is so ingrained that the currently-dominant party is called "the Government" for short. Technically you could say that this refers to the executive, but in practice it also includes non-minister members of the legislature.



            Further reinforcing not just a party system, but a two-party system, is the role of the Opposition (entirely a matter of convention). While the dominant party is the Government, the runner-up is the Opposition. Their job is to scrutinise the Government's actions, and present an alternative set of policies for the voters come the next election, because they (unlike minor parties) have a realistic chance of being the next Government.



            Even the very layout of the legislative chambers is based on a two-party system. The Government sits on one side, the Opposition on the other, and minor parties sit on the "cross-benches".



            Public Perception



            The voting public knows and accepts the conventions, probably better than the written law. They almost universally choose a party to vote for (or against), not a candidate.



            An interesting situation (and very topical in Australia) is a change in party leadership. When the reigning party's leader loses that leadership due to internal issues, that naturally results in them also being removed as Prime Minister. This tends to annoy the voters, who see themselves as "voting for a Prime Minister" at election time5, even though technically only one electorate directly voted for the PM (who is also their local member).



            What If...?



            You could imagine a non-partisan government, where the head of state actually uses the power that the written law gives them (but which convention says they should never use) and picks whoever they damn well please to be in the executive, regardless of party. But it just doesn't happen4; it'd be seen as a flagrant breach of convention and a slide towards dictatorship.




            1 Originally, the Australian Constitution didn't mention parties at all. A later amendment added a requirement that, when a senator gets replaced, their replacement has to be from the same party.



            2 The Australian Constitution allows non-members of Parliament to become ministers only for a limited time. In practice, it just doesn't happen.



            3 This decision may be made at the Prime Minister's own discretion or by the party caucus.



            4 A unity government is kind of close, but not really.



            5 Or at least, the media can always sell the story that the people's chosen PM was kicked out by undemocratic intra-party squabbling, not an election.






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            • I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

              – JJJ
              Mar 9 at 8:57











            • @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

              – Tim Pederick
              Mar 9 at 14:16















            0














            A lot of people are commenting about human nature and its role in partisan systems forming. As a matter of interest, I think we can expand on this by comparing the Westminster system used in the UK and several Commonwealth countries.



            For specific examples, I'll be using Australia to illustrate, as (a) it has a single written Constitution, unlike the UK, and (b) as an Aussie it's the one I know best. But I think that what I've said below is also true of the UK, and probably mostly true of other Westminster democracies.



            In summary, political parties are mostly absent1 from the written law, but are a key element of convention. And convention is perhaps equally important as written law in how a Westminster government works.




            The Executive and Legislature



            Notionally, the executive and the legislature are separate bodies, although by law and/or convention2, all members of the executive (aside from the head of state) are also members of the legislature. And notionally, it's the head of state who appoints the other members of the executive (the ministers).



            In practice, the head of state first picks the head of government (the Prime Minister), and always chooses the leader of the party that has a majority in the legislature's lower house. The other members of the executive are whoever the Prime Minister tells the head of state to appoint3.



            Consider what happens when no party has a majority in the lower house. The head of state decides which party is more likely to consistently get its votes passed by cobbling together enough support from outside the party. That party's leader becomes PM. If that shaky ability to win votes doesn't last, the legislature gets dissolved and an election is held.



            So to run the government, you have to have the reliable support of a majority of legislators. That practically requires that parties exist, and that party members consistently vote the same way.



            Election Systems



            Election systems that favour major parties result in more stable government, and so are more common, even if they're arguably less democratic. More specifically, since it's a majority in the lower house that you need, the lower house's election system is almost always one that favours major parties. (In the UK, it's first-past-the-post; in Australia, it's single-candidate preferential.)



            The upper house (where it hasn't been done away with) is expected to be more diverse and can have completely different election system. (The UK's House of Lords is unelected, while Australia's Senate is elected on proportional representation.)



            "The Government"



            The notion of power being tied to a party is so ingrained that the currently-dominant party is called "the Government" for short. Technically you could say that this refers to the executive, but in practice it also includes non-minister members of the legislature.



            Further reinforcing not just a party system, but a two-party system, is the role of the Opposition (entirely a matter of convention). While the dominant party is the Government, the runner-up is the Opposition. Their job is to scrutinise the Government's actions, and present an alternative set of policies for the voters come the next election, because they (unlike minor parties) have a realistic chance of being the next Government.



            Even the very layout of the legislative chambers is based on a two-party system. The Government sits on one side, the Opposition on the other, and minor parties sit on the "cross-benches".



            Public Perception



            The voting public knows and accepts the conventions, probably better than the written law. They almost universally choose a party to vote for (or against), not a candidate.



            An interesting situation (and very topical in Australia) is a change in party leadership. When the reigning party's leader loses that leadership due to internal issues, that naturally results in them also being removed as Prime Minister. This tends to annoy the voters, who see themselves as "voting for a Prime Minister" at election time5, even though technically only one electorate directly voted for the PM (who is also their local member).



            What If...?



            You could imagine a non-partisan government, where the head of state actually uses the power that the written law gives them (but which convention says they should never use) and picks whoever they damn well please to be in the executive, regardless of party. But it just doesn't happen4; it'd be seen as a flagrant breach of convention and a slide towards dictatorship.




            1 Originally, the Australian Constitution didn't mention parties at all. A later amendment added a requirement that, when a senator gets replaced, their replacement has to be from the same party.



            2 The Australian Constitution allows non-members of Parliament to become ministers only for a limited time. In practice, it just doesn't happen.



            3 This decision may be made at the Prime Minister's own discretion or by the party caucus.



            4 A unity government is kind of close, but not really.



            5 Or at least, the media can always sell the story that the people's chosen PM was kicked out by undemocratic intra-party squabbling, not an election.






            share|improve this answer























            • I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

              – JJJ
              Mar 9 at 8:57











            • @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

              – Tim Pederick
              Mar 9 at 14:16













            0












            0








            0







            A lot of people are commenting about human nature and its role in partisan systems forming. As a matter of interest, I think we can expand on this by comparing the Westminster system used in the UK and several Commonwealth countries.



            For specific examples, I'll be using Australia to illustrate, as (a) it has a single written Constitution, unlike the UK, and (b) as an Aussie it's the one I know best. But I think that what I've said below is also true of the UK, and probably mostly true of other Westminster democracies.



            In summary, political parties are mostly absent1 from the written law, but are a key element of convention. And convention is perhaps equally important as written law in how a Westminster government works.




            The Executive and Legislature



            Notionally, the executive and the legislature are separate bodies, although by law and/or convention2, all members of the executive (aside from the head of state) are also members of the legislature. And notionally, it's the head of state who appoints the other members of the executive (the ministers).



            In practice, the head of state first picks the head of government (the Prime Minister), and always chooses the leader of the party that has a majority in the legislature's lower house. The other members of the executive are whoever the Prime Minister tells the head of state to appoint3.



            Consider what happens when no party has a majority in the lower house. The head of state decides which party is more likely to consistently get its votes passed by cobbling together enough support from outside the party. That party's leader becomes PM. If that shaky ability to win votes doesn't last, the legislature gets dissolved and an election is held.



            So to run the government, you have to have the reliable support of a majority of legislators. That practically requires that parties exist, and that party members consistently vote the same way.



            Election Systems



            Election systems that favour major parties result in more stable government, and so are more common, even if they're arguably less democratic. More specifically, since it's a majority in the lower house that you need, the lower house's election system is almost always one that favours major parties. (In the UK, it's first-past-the-post; in Australia, it's single-candidate preferential.)



            The upper house (where it hasn't been done away with) is expected to be more diverse and can have completely different election system. (The UK's House of Lords is unelected, while Australia's Senate is elected on proportional representation.)



            "The Government"



            The notion of power being tied to a party is so ingrained that the currently-dominant party is called "the Government" for short. Technically you could say that this refers to the executive, but in practice it also includes non-minister members of the legislature.



            Further reinforcing not just a party system, but a two-party system, is the role of the Opposition (entirely a matter of convention). While the dominant party is the Government, the runner-up is the Opposition. Their job is to scrutinise the Government's actions, and present an alternative set of policies for the voters come the next election, because they (unlike minor parties) have a realistic chance of being the next Government.



            Even the very layout of the legislative chambers is based on a two-party system. The Government sits on one side, the Opposition on the other, and minor parties sit on the "cross-benches".



            Public Perception



            The voting public knows and accepts the conventions, probably better than the written law. They almost universally choose a party to vote for (or against), not a candidate.



            An interesting situation (and very topical in Australia) is a change in party leadership. When the reigning party's leader loses that leadership due to internal issues, that naturally results in them also being removed as Prime Minister. This tends to annoy the voters, who see themselves as "voting for a Prime Minister" at election time5, even though technically only one electorate directly voted for the PM (who is also their local member).



            What If...?



            You could imagine a non-partisan government, where the head of state actually uses the power that the written law gives them (but which convention says they should never use) and picks whoever they damn well please to be in the executive, regardless of party. But it just doesn't happen4; it'd be seen as a flagrant breach of convention and a slide towards dictatorship.




            1 Originally, the Australian Constitution didn't mention parties at all. A later amendment added a requirement that, when a senator gets replaced, their replacement has to be from the same party.



            2 The Australian Constitution allows non-members of Parliament to become ministers only for a limited time. In practice, it just doesn't happen.



            3 This decision may be made at the Prime Minister's own discretion or by the party caucus.



            4 A unity government is kind of close, but not really.



            5 Or at least, the media can always sell the story that the people's chosen PM was kicked out by undemocratic intra-party squabbling, not an election.






            share|improve this answer













            A lot of people are commenting about human nature and its role in partisan systems forming. As a matter of interest, I think we can expand on this by comparing the Westminster system used in the UK and several Commonwealth countries.



            For specific examples, I'll be using Australia to illustrate, as (a) it has a single written Constitution, unlike the UK, and (b) as an Aussie it's the one I know best. But I think that what I've said below is also true of the UK, and probably mostly true of other Westminster democracies.



            In summary, political parties are mostly absent1 from the written law, but are a key element of convention. And convention is perhaps equally important as written law in how a Westminster government works.




            The Executive and Legislature



            Notionally, the executive and the legislature are separate bodies, although by law and/or convention2, all members of the executive (aside from the head of state) are also members of the legislature. And notionally, it's the head of state who appoints the other members of the executive (the ministers).



            In practice, the head of state first picks the head of government (the Prime Minister), and always chooses the leader of the party that has a majority in the legislature's lower house. The other members of the executive are whoever the Prime Minister tells the head of state to appoint3.



            Consider what happens when no party has a majority in the lower house. The head of state decides which party is more likely to consistently get its votes passed by cobbling together enough support from outside the party. That party's leader becomes PM. If that shaky ability to win votes doesn't last, the legislature gets dissolved and an election is held.



            So to run the government, you have to have the reliable support of a majority of legislators. That practically requires that parties exist, and that party members consistently vote the same way.



            Election Systems



            Election systems that favour major parties result in more stable government, and so are more common, even if they're arguably less democratic. More specifically, since it's a majority in the lower house that you need, the lower house's election system is almost always one that favours major parties. (In the UK, it's first-past-the-post; in Australia, it's single-candidate preferential.)



            The upper house (where it hasn't been done away with) is expected to be more diverse and can have completely different election system. (The UK's House of Lords is unelected, while Australia's Senate is elected on proportional representation.)



            "The Government"



            The notion of power being tied to a party is so ingrained that the currently-dominant party is called "the Government" for short. Technically you could say that this refers to the executive, but in practice it also includes non-minister members of the legislature.



            Further reinforcing not just a party system, but a two-party system, is the role of the Opposition (entirely a matter of convention). While the dominant party is the Government, the runner-up is the Opposition. Their job is to scrutinise the Government's actions, and present an alternative set of policies for the voters come the next election, because they (unlike minor parties) have a realistic chance of being the next Government.



            Even the very layout of the legislative chambers is based on a two-party system. The Government sits on one side, the Opposition on the other, and minor parties sit on the "cross-benches".



            Public Perception



            The voting public knows and accepts the conventions, probably better than the written law. They almost universally choose a party to vote for (or against), not a candidate.



            An interesting situation (and very topical in Australia) is a change in party leadership. When the reigning party's leader loses that leadership due to internal issues, that naturally results in them also being removed as Prime Minister. This tends to annoy the voters, who see themselves as "voting for a Prime Minister" at election time5, even though technically only one electorate directly voted for the PM (who is also their local member).



            What If...?



            You could imagine a non-partisan government, where the head of state actually uses the power that the written law gives them (but which convention says they should never use) and picks whoever they damn well please to be in the executive, regardless of party. But it just doesn't happen4; it'd be seen as a flagrant breach of convention and a slide towards dictatorship.




            1 Originally, the Australian Constitution didn't mention parties at all. A later amendment added a requirement that, when a senator gets replaced, their replacement has to be from the same party.



            2 The Australian Constitution allows non-members of Parliament to become ministers only for a limited time. In practice, it just doesn't happen.



            3 This decision may be made at the Prime Minister's own discretion or by the party caucus.



            4 A unity government is kind of close, but not really.



            5 Or at least, the media can always sell the story that the people's chosen PM was kicked out by undemocratic intra-party squabbling, not an election.







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            • I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

              – JJJ
              Mar 9 at 8:57











            • @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

              – Tim Pederick
              Mar 9 at 14:16

















            • I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

              – JJJ
              Mar 9 at 8:57











            • @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

              – Tim Pederick
              Mar 9 at 14:16
















            I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

            – JJJ
            Mar 9 at 8:57





            I think you may have misread US as UK. The US does not have a Westminster system.

            – JJJ
            Mar 9 at 8:57













            @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

            – Tim Pederick
            Mar 9 at 14:16





            @JJJ: Yes, I know. The question, and several comments, have talked about parties as a consequence of human nature; another answer also purposed to look at global trends. So I thought that giving another perspective might be valuable, particularly on a system that is related to the US's and yet much more hard-wired for parties.

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