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I was just wondering if it's possible to open a headless browser with the webbrowser module? I'm new to programming and have virtually no experience and don't even know where to look. I heard this is a good site to start. I wanted to use the webbrowser module because I'm planning to run the program on other computers and the average person doesn't have special software like chrome drivers installed on their computers, also webbrowser doesn't require a PATH to open a browser window. So I wanted to use it. If anyone knows any other alternative modules that can open common browsers without needing a PATH please say so.










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  • You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

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I was just wondering if it's possible to open a headless browser with the webbrowser module? I'm new to programming and have virtually no experience and don't even know where to look. I heard this is a good site to start. I wanted to use the webbrowser module because I'm planning to run the program on other computers and the average person doesn't have special software like chrome drivers installed on their computers, also webbrowser doesn't require a PATH to open a browser window. So I wanted to use it. If anyone knows any other alternative modules that can open common browsers without needing a PATH please say so.










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  • You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:40














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I was just wondering if it's possible to open a headless browser with the webbrowser module? I'm new to programming and have virtually no experience and don't even know where to look. I heard this is a good site to start. I wanted to use the webbrowser module because I'm planning to run the program on other computers and the average person doesn't have special software like chrome drivers installed on their computers, also webbrowser doesn't require a PATH to open a browser window. So I wanted to use it. If anyone knows any other alternative modules that can open common browsers without needing a PATH please say so.










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I was just wondering if it's possible to open a headless browser with the webbrowser module? I'm new to programming and have virtually no experience and don't even know where to look. I heard this is a good site to start. I wanted to use the webbrowser module because I'm planning to run the program on other computers and the average person doesn't have special software like chrome drivers installed on their computers, also webbrowser doesn't require a PATH to open a browser window. So I wanted to use it. If anyone knows any other alternative modules that can open common browsers without needing a PATH please say so.







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  • You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:40


















  • You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:40

















You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:40






You should explain why you want to use the webbrowser module, and why do you want a headless browser (and not just some HTTP client). In particular, explain more precisely what you'll do with HTML and other contents. What would you do with images on the Web?

– Basile Starynkevitch
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Most modules have a so-called API documentation. For the webbrowser module, it can be found here: https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/webbrowser.html



If you come across a module of which you cannot find any documentation, try help() in iPython:



import webbrowser
help(webbrowser) # help for module
help(webbrowser.get) # help for function
browser = webbrowser.get()
help(browser) # help for browser object


There one can see, that this is no documented feature for the webbrowser module. Nevertheless, there are other modules that you might want to look into - this list seems to be a good start https://github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers




Btw. to respond to Basile Starynkevitch (I have not yet enough reputation to add a comment under other posts): A headless browser might process JavaScript and follow HTML forwarding. You will not get the same from the software you mentioned.






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  • Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:18











  • Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:21











  • links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:23











  • Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:26











  • BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:34



















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Wrong terminology: a headless browser should be more generally called some HTTP client. Read much more about HTTP and take time to understand what should happen in the HTTP clients and what should happen in the HTTP servers. Be also aware of HTML5, JavaScript, AJAX and other web technologies. They are related in their usage within a usual browser such as Firefox, but conceptually independent.



Of course, your typical browser is an HTTP client, but there are many other HTTP clients (e.g. wget or any program using libcurl, which is a good free software HTTP client library or web crawlers).



Some browsers (e.g. links) can be much more crude than your typical one, but all browsers are HTTP clients. They might not even know about JavaScript or CSS (or not even show any image). They still deserve to be called "browsers". Some programs (e.g. selenium) reproduce many functions of typical browsers (even JavaScript or CSS) but don't show anything on a screen. You might call them headless browsers but they might not even claim being one.



And Python includes some HTTP client (and also HTTP server) functions.



You could find other HTTP server libraries, such as libonion.



Many programs use HTTP (outside of browsing, e.g. as inter-process communication). Be aware of web services.



PS. That is the first time I read about headless browsers, so I don't think this terminology is very common.






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  • (Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

    – Some_dude
    Mar 9 at 3:50











  • I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 7:18












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Most modules have a so-called API documentation. For the webbrowser module, it can be found here: https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/webbrowser.html



If you come across a module of which you cannot find any documentation, try help() in iPython:



import webbrowser
help(webbrowser) # help for module
help(webbrowser.get) # help for function
browser = webbrowser.get()
help(browser) # help for browser object


There one can see, that this is no documented feature for the webbrowser module. Nevertheless, there are other modules that you might want to look into - this list seems to be a good start https://github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers




Btw. to respond to Basile Starynkevitch (I have not yet enough reputation to add a comment under other posts): A headless browser might process JavaScript and follow HTML forwarding. You will not get the same from the software you mentioned.






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  • Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:18











  • Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:21











  • links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:23











  • Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:26











  • BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:34
















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Most modules have a so-called API documentation. For the webbrowser module, it can be found here: https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/webbrowser.html



If you come across a module of which you cannot find any documentation, try help() in iPython:



import webbrowser
help(webbrowser) # help for module
help(webbrowser.get) # help for function
browser = webbrowser.get()
help(browser) # help for browser object


There one can see, that this is no documented feature for the webbrowser module. Nevertheless, there are other modules that you might want to look into - this list seems to be a good start https://github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers




Btw. to respond to Basile Starynkevitch (I have not yet enough reputation to add a comment under other posts): A headless browser might process JavaScript and follow HTML forwarding. You will not get the same from the software you mentioned.






share|improve this answer

























  • Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:18











  • Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:21











  • links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:23











  • Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:26











  • BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:34














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Most modules have a so-called API documentation. For the webbrowser module, it can be found here: https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/webbrowser.html



If you come across a module of which you cannot find any documentation, try help() in iPython:



import webbrowser
help(webbrowser) # help for module
help(webbrowser.get) # help for function
browser = webbrowser.get()
help(browser) # help for browser object


There one can see, that this is no documented feature for the webbrowser module. Nevertheless, there are other modules that you might want to look into - this list seems to be a good start https://github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers




Btw. to respond to Basile Starynkevitch (I have not yet enough reputation to add a comment under other posts): A headless browser might process JavaScript and follow HTML forwarding. You will not get the same from the software you mentioned.






share|improve this answer















Most modules have a so-called API documentation. For the webbrowser module, it can be found here: https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/webbrowser.html



If you come across a module of which you cannot find any documentation, try help() in iPython:



import webbrowser
help(webbrowser) # help for module
help(webbrowser.get) # help for function
browser = webbrowser.get()
help(browser) # help for browser object


There one can see, that this is no documented feature for the webbrowser module. Nevertheless, there are other modules that you might want to look into - this list seems to be a good start https://github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers




Btw. to respond to Basile Starynkevitch (I have not yet enough reputation to add a comment under other posts): A headless browser might process JavaScript and follow HTML forwarding. You will not get the same from the software you mentioned.







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  • Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:18











  • Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:21











  • links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:23











  • Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:26











  • BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:34


















  • Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:18











  • Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:21











  • links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:23











  • Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

    – mythenmetz
    Mar 9 at 3:26











  • BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 3:34

















Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:18





Yep. You wrote: might process. And some browsers don't process JavaScript (e.g. links)

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:18













Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

– mythenmetz
Mar 9 at 3:21





Totally agree. I just wanted to answer to your statement "Wrong terminology", as "headless browser" is a terminology that is commonly used.

– mythenmetz
Mar 9 at 3:21













links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:23





links is a "full" browser which does not process JavaScript.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:23













Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

– mythenmetz
Mar 9 at 3:26





Again, I totally agree that there are (also headless) browsers that do not process JavaScript. Nevertheless the terminology "headless browser" is not wrong.

– mythenmetz
Mar 9 at 3:26













BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:34






BTW, that is the first time I am hearing of "headless browser". So I don't think that terminology is so common. A browser has by definition a human user. And a headless server has no screen.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 3:34














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Wrong terminology: a headless browser should be more generally called some HTTP client. Read much more about HTTP and take time to understand what should happen in the HTTP clients and what should happen in the HTTP servers. Be also aware of HTML5, JavaScript, AJAX and other web technologies. They are related in their usage within a usual browser such as Firefox, but conceptually independent.



Of course, your typical browser is an HTTP client, but there are many other HTTP clients (e.g. wget or any program using libcurl, which is a good free software HTTP client library or web crawlers).



Some browsers (e.g. links) can be much more crude than your typical one, but all browsers are HTTP clients. They might not even know about JavaScript or CSS (or not even show any image). They still deserve to be called "browsers". Some programs (e.g. selenium) reproduce many functions of typical browsers (even JavaScript or CSS) but don't show anything on a screen. You might call them headless browsers but they might not even claim being one.



And Python includes some HTTP client (and also HTTP server) functions.



You could find other HTTP server libraries, such as libonion.



Many programs use HTTP (outside of browsing, e.g. as inter-process communication). Be aware of web services.



PS. That is the first time I read about headless browsers, so I don't think this terminology is very common.






share|improve this answer

























  • (Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

    – Some_dude
    Mar 9 at 3:50











  • I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 7:18
















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Wrong terminology: a headless browser should be more generally called some HTTP client. Read much more about HTTP and take time to understand what should happen in the HTTP clients and what should happen in the HTTP servers. Be also aware of HTML5, JavaScript, AJAX and other web technologies. They are related in their usage within a usual browser such as Firefox, but conceptually independent.



Of course, your typical browser is an HTTP client, but there are many other HTTP clients (e.g. wget or any program using libcurl, which is a good free software HTTP client library or web crawlers).



Some browsers (e.g. links) can be much more crude than your typical one, but all browsers are HTTP clients. They might not even know about JavaScript or CSS (or not even show any image). They still deserve to be called "browsers". Some programs (e.g. selenium) reproduce many functions of typical browsers (even JavaScript or CSS) but don't show anything on a screen. You might call them headless browsers but they might not even claim being one.



And Python includes some HTTP client (and also HTTP server) functions.



You could find other HTTP server libraries, such as libonion.



Many programs use HTTP (outside of browsing, e.g. as inter-process communication). Be aware of web services.



PS. That is the first time I read about headless browsers, so I don't think this terminology is very common.






share|improve this answer

























  • (Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

    – Some_dude
    Mar 9 at 3:50











  • I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 7:18














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Wrong terminology: a headless browser should be more generally called some HTTP client. Read much more about HTTP and take time to understand what should happen in the HTTP clients and what should happen in the HTTP servers. Be also aware of HTML5, JavaScript, AJAX and other web technologies. They are related in their usage within a usual browser such as Firefox, but conceptually independent.



Of course, your typical browser is an HTTP client, but there are many other HTTP clients (e.g. wget or any program using libcurl, which is a good free software HTTP client library or web crawlers).



Some browsers (e.g. links) can be much more crude than your typical one, but all browsers are HTTP clients. They might not even know about JavaScript or CSS (or not even show any image). They still deserve to be called "browsers". Some programs (e.g. selenium) reproduce many functions of typical browsers (even JavaScript or CSS) but don't show anything on a screen. You might call them headless browsers but they might not even claim being one.



And Python includes some HTTP client (and also HTTP server) functions.



You could find other HTTP server libraries, such as libonion.



Many programs use HTTP (outside of browsing, e.g. as inter-process communication). Be aware of web services.



PS. That is the first time I read about headless browsers, so I don't think this terminology is very common.






share|improve this answer















Wrong terminology: a headless browser should be more generally called some HTTP client. Read much more about HTTP and take time to understand what should happen in the HTTP clients and what should happen in the HTTP servers. Be also aware of HTML5, JavaScript, AJAX and other web technologies. They are related in their usage within a usual browser such as Firefox, but conceptually independent.



Of course, your typical browser is an HTTP client, but there are many other HTTP clients (e.g. wget or any program using libcurl, which is a good free software HTTP client library or web crawlers).



Some browsers (e.g. links) can be much more crude than your typical one, but all browsers are HTTP clients. They might not even know about JavaScript or CSS (or not even show any image). They still deserve to be called "browsers". Some programs (e.g. selenium) reproduce many functions of typical browsers (even JavaScript or CSS) but don't show anything on a screen. You might call them headless browsers but they might not even claim being one.



And Python includes some HTTP client (and also HTTP server) functions.



You could find other HTTP server libraries, such as libonion.



Many programs use HTTP (outside of browsing, e.g. as inter-process communication). Be aware of web services.



PS. That is the first time I read about headless browsers, so I don't think this terminology is very common.







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  • (Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

    – Some_dude
    Mar 9 at 3:50











  • I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 7:18


















  • (Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

    – Some_dude
    Mar 9 at 3:50











  • I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Mar 9 at 7:18

















(Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

– Some_dude
Mar 9 at 3:50





(Sorry if I sound stupid, as said I'm very new to tech) So basically, what I think you said is that not all browsers can process javascript, but HTTP clients can? If I'm correct, I just wanted to know if some of the HTTP clients I can find will be able to access sites on the internet as a browser would, like for example would a HTTP client be able to go somewhere like youtube?, also the Wikipedia page for HTTP looks a bit overwhelming, I'm fine with reading it and doing more research on my own, but before I did that I just wanted to know if you knew any more beginner friendly sites?

– Some_dude
Mar 9 at 3:50













I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 7:18






I did not wrote that most HTTP clients can process JavaScript. I did wrote that some browsers can't.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Mar 9 at 7:18


















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